Backswing plane too steep with driver

Blocked shots to the right and hooks are a common result for getting the club across the line at the top of the backswing. Billy horschel shares the techniques he uses to shallow out his swing when it gets too steep. Video by pete styles now if you want to try and improve your swing plane with your driver, first things first lets understand what swing plane is and now ill give you some tips on how you can improve it or change it if its not quite right. To get the proper golf swing plane its vital that your golf swing begins the correct way. The why and how of shallowing your golf swing the left.

Essentially what is happening is the shaft of the club on the way back is too flat. Eighty percent of golfers hit slices, pulls and pull hooks because their downswing is too steep, according to dr. I still fight this and come in steep myself, but when i am able to stay on plane not laid off on the backswing monte is right on the money. While the club is much shallower at the start of the downswing, during impact the club was actually moving. The problem with a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing is that it takes your arms and the golf club out of position, your hands and the club too far behind you at the top see figure 2 this then creates a shift in your swing planes in the downswing, which reduces the efficiency of your golf swing and means that you will have to make compensations in the downswing in order to.

I have trouble with consciously shortening bs as i am still working on keeping the club close to plane on bs which is too steep until i finish the bs all the way and then drop it on plane. Oct 15, 2017 if you allow the right side of your body to control the entire downswing, the chances of going too much over the tip creates a steep route to the impact, resulting from veering inside of the swing plane. Three main reasons you get steep in your downswing. The backswing is the start of the golf swing and is the portion of the swing that moves the club away from the ball and target and upwards off of the ground. In this video, you get a perfect backswing plane drill. The shoulder pivot golf instruction andrew rice golf. Nov 28, 2009 the shoulders wind into the backswing.

Lets run through the three problems that golfers do to cause an over the top golf swing. With a driver, this can also produce the dreaded popup shot that everyone in golf hates. One of the greatest skills you can have on the golf course is the ability to hit your driver down the middle of the fairway time after time. If youre in too flat or too steep a position at the top, youll have to work hard during the downswing to deliver the club correctly into the ball. Please see the backswing checkpoints video in conjunction with this drill to get the most from it. The swingplane is a frequently misunderstood, and frequently misused, term that has entered the golf intructional worlds lexicon in recent years, and there are endless debates in golf discussion forums on what represents the correct swingplane. I finally put together a stepby step program to shallow your downswing. How steep and shallow affect swing path golf channel. If i had a dollar for every time i heard a golfer say im too steep on my. We are not 100% opposed to being steep in the backswing, however for most players, this ends up being detrimental during the transition and downswing. In the video above, titleist staff instructor trillium rose tells us that the position of your club at the top of your backswing can tell you how well youre swinging onplane.

If the butt end of the club is not pointed at the golf ball or the line of flight, it can be too vertical. So, a shallower shaft actually produced a steeper angle of attack and a left swing path this is not to say a steep shaft at the start of the swing automatically produces this impact or vice versa, but it is just. If your backswing features limited wrist hinge and a steep swing plane, you most likely will shallow out the club too much coming down and create a swing path that is too much from in to out, which is a recipe for hooks and blocks. Youll find it difficult to achieve any real consistency. This then creates a shift in your swing planes in the downswing, which reduces the efficiency of your golf swing and means that you will have to.

An upright backswing requires a higher degree of shoulder and back flexibility and is perhaps a more unfamiliar technique for the beginning golfer. A swing plane thats too shallow makes it easy to close the clubface at impact and hit a hook. Well, a swing thought i use with my driver and 3 wood is to try and sweepbrush the. What role does the right shoulder play in the golf swing. Steep backswing, shallow downswing instruction and playing.

A steep shoulder plane often results in a reverse pivot. All three of these shots are extremely closely related. Also, the angle of the shaft at address is the plane you want the backswing to follow right. The why and how of shallowing your golf swing the left rough. Its a great way to make sure youre not swinging the club on too flat a plane or too steep a plane. Where a lowerdeeper backswing requires players to work the arms out and down, instead of just down. In this new edition of weekly fix, swingfix pro tim cooke is going to discuss. I ruined my grip and game trying to cure driver slice was a bogey golfer but. Aug 17, 2015 the problem with a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing is that it takes your arms and the golf club out of position, your hands and the club too far behind you at the top see figure 2. A flat shoulder turn can cause the club to be out of position on the backswing and creates a shift in swing planes on the downswing which reduces the efficiency of the motion. And the golf club that comes around and flat in this way and comes down too much more like a sergio garcia we would often talk about that as being too flat. How to fix an over the top golf swing golf club guru. With a high to low backswing to downswing, dropping the arms is working with gravity. Fix a flat shoulder turn in your golf backswing with this simple and easy to do drill.

A backswing plane that is upright, or steep, can work very well as long as plane is flattened during the transition to the forward swing. Feb 22, 2017 golfers who get the club too steep, either during the backswing and especially during the downswing, are almost always shallow at impact. Golfers who get the club too steep, either during the backswing and especially during the downswing, are almost always shallow at impact. This excellent golf backswing drill is simple but very informative. Steep backswing, shallow downswing instruction and. Sure, this drill is slightly overdone, yet it is rare for someone to get the shoulders to pivot on a plane that is too steep. Ive been having this issue for a little while now, will post a video in the comments when i can. Too deep of arms in the backswing limits the space the arms have when the body starts to unwind in transition. The closer you can get to 0 the average tour pro is closer to 1 degree, according to.

When the backswing gets too steep, it can create several swing flaws. To perform a backswing so that the clubshaftclubhead path is not too shallow or too steep, a golfer needs to control the amount of adduction, elevation and rotation of the left upper arm that occurs within the left shoulder socket per unit time while he is simultaneously rotating his torso during the backswing. Obviously, youre not looking for any of these shots in your golf game. Three shots are typically the result the push, the snap hook and the dreaded shank. Many golfers struggle with a club shaft that is too steep during the downswing, but this exercise and drill can help you remove. Checkpoints for getting on plane the first mistake that golfers will do that gets their swing off plane happens immediately at the takeaway. Players with a steep downswing bring the club down with the shaft almost perpendicular to the ground. Diagnose the problem causing an over the top swing. It is up to you to give the club proper direction and point the grip end at the target line. The pivot is going to be more core driven, so the arms may set a little bit later. If your hands are low and more behind you, your swing is probably too flat. Morris says there are two ways your downswing can go from. This will help you hit slightly up on the ball with the driver and create.

The creases between your thumbs and forefingers should be parallel to each other and point toward your chin. Steep backswing, shallow downswing sign in to follow this. A swing plane that is too steep tends to create fat shots and a flat swing plane tends to create thin shots though the reverse can be true as well. This pattern is actually very common players are steep at the start of the downswing. From an on plane, halfwayback position continue turning your shoulders to complete your backswing, with the club shaft pointing at an extension of the target line if you are swinging a driver and you are flexible enough, the club shaft will once again be parallel to the target line. A backswing plane that is upright, or steep, can work very well as long as plane is flattened during. If your backswing features limited wrist hinge and a steep swing plane. A flat shoulder plane is when the shoulders turn on a more horizontal plane than the axis of the original spine angle. Malaska golf full swing tips too steep across the ball. Unless you have an unusual swing, this should put the club on your correct plane. At 34 your butt end of the club should be pointing on the same line, only behind the ball. The ideal solution depends on which problem we are trying to fix.

Graham gaches among the most common mistakes that slicers make is taking the club back on an overly vertical plane. Move your ball position up toward your left foot and your shots should straighten out almost immediately. Jun 25, 20 if your backswing features limited wrist hinge and a steep swing plane, you most likely will shallow out the club too much coming down and create a swing path that is too much from in to out. So many golfers get this wrong and the rest of their golf swing becomes a series of compensations trying to save the swing. Morris says there are two ways your downswing can go from here, and neither of them are good. It will help you get a feel for your swing path and whether youre swinging the club on too flat or too steep a.

Similarly, if your hands are in front of your right shoulder at the top closer to the target line your swing plane is probably too steep. These swing flaws will require compensation and timing to hit a quality golf shot. The backswing consists of a combination of arm swing, wrist hinge and shoulder. So, how do we know, whats a good drill, to help us figure out what plane our shoulders should rotate on during the backswing. Start your backswing and have the tee, laser or marker pointing down the line. To avoid an overly steep backswing, swing your left hand back and across your chest. Many golfers, when they first start swinging the driver on a flatter plane, will block most of their drives to the right. This onearm drill helps athletes intuitively swing the club on the proper plane and reconditions them to feel the role of both arms. Too much backspin will decrease the amount of roll you get with this club. Billy horschels tips to shallow out a steep swing golf. Many amateurs swing the club down on a steep, outtoin path with the. The simple swing plane drill thats going to make you a good iron player. The problem with a shoulder plane that is too flat in the backswing is that it takes your arms and the golf club out of position, your hands and the club too far behind you at the top see figure 2.

The simple guide to getting your swing on plane the left. Morris says the hands go back too steep in the takeaway. And that, my friends, is how to and how not to shorten your backswing. Nobody wants to hit the ground the behind the golf ball, so golfers make every compensation possible to avoid it they stand up, they back up, they chicken wing, they raise.

This drill will also illustrate how the lower body needs to free up in order for the shoulders to pivot on a steeper plane. This drill is especially helpful to stop your club from coming across the line at the top of your swing. Understanding swing plane and swing path golf channel. Lets assume that your shoulders are turning too steep on the backswing. You may be used to playing your driver farther back in your stance because of your previously steep swing plane but that ball plane needs to move to match up with your new swing. A slicers golf swing is inherently too steep relative to the ideal swing shape. Aug 04, 2015 to get the proper golf swing plane its vital that your golf swing begins the correct way. When you do this, it requires a ton of compensations to reroute your club for a decent impact position. The plane on which your arms swing is call arm plane. Oct 07, 2017 in other words, even though the club was steep starting the downswing, by the time it reached impact it was coming from the inside a hookers pattern, and moving very level through impact overly shallow about 46 degrees down is a normal 7 iron shot.

When the shaft works too steep in the backswing, it causes the player to excessively tilt their shoulder plane. Feel how the lead shoulder moves down as the shoulders wind into the backswing. Many players pick the club up too steep during the backswing, resulting in the top position across the line. Pop ups are steep a popup is a very penalizing miss. My swing was decently short of parallel, my tempo was 100% improved, and i was perfectly on the plane that i wanted to be on i prefer a steep backswing, shallow downswing personally. I ruined my grip and game trying to cure driver slice was a bogey golfer but just couldnt get off tee. This then creates a shift in your swing planes in the downswing, which reduces the efficiency of your golf swing and means that you will have to make compensations in the downswing in order to square the club face consistently.

If your club shaft is too steep or too flat, you will have to make some difficult compensations on the downswing in order to deliver the club back to the ball. Jun 30, 2016 to avoid an overly steep backswing, swing your left hand back and across your chest. Most amateurs fall somewhere between a 4 and 6 degrees down with the driver, which is entirely too steep. Take a club, put it across your chest, up at your shoulders, or across your shoulder sockets up here so that the butt of the club is on your left shoulder.

This is normally caused by a very horizontal shoulder plane which forces your arms to do all the work trying to get down to the ball. If you do shallow or flatten the shaft too much coming down. Jul 16, 2015 you must keep your backswing mostly on plane or maybe slightly below so that you start ds mostly on plane, in which case shorten away works great, imo. Aug 03, 2015 simple solution to get the correct golf swing plane. How to establish your golf swing plane the swing plane, at its most basic, is the path your golf clubs shaft follows when you swing. I setup pretty good but my backswing is just so steep and it is a lot of arm lifting after my shoulders stop and causes over the top most of the time. Simple solution to get the correct golf swing plane. Feel like your right shoulder never gets any higher as you go back. How to shallow the club shaft with your driver youtube. Driver vs iron backswing after setting up a little differently for the driver, we are going to make a few slightly different moves than in the iron swing.

Chris ryan shows you how to shallow the club shaft with your driver. You must keep your backswing mostly on plane or maybe slightly below so that you start ds mostly on plane, in which case shorten away works great, imo. There are multiple reasons that you are coming in too steep and over the top of the swing plane on your downswing. When a golfer starts coming too far from the inside and under the plane, a multitude of bad shots are the result that can turn a day at the course into a drudgery of army golf left, right, left, right. Feb 25, 20 improve your golf backswing plane meandmygolf. Im glad you asked, because i have a simple drill for you. Part of a new skill pathways series added where i look at common swing flaws to give you a better understanding of the causes and effects in. I am down to a 6 hc at the par 3 course i have my membership at and shoot around 90 on a full course. Most steep swingers try to keep the left arm straight too long. Swing plane can get complicated especially if you want to cover all the possible variations in the plane from address to the end of the followthrough. Aug, 2018 chris ryan shows you how to shallow the club shaft with your driver. For most golfers this is a steep up and down type movement.

This can produce fat shots, skinny shots, and big misses to the right. Fixing a steep shoulder turn on backswing ive just gotten a horrible fault on the backswingmy shoulder turn started getting steepernow ive just kept the shoulder turn 90 to the spine tilt and my swing started to improve right awayi know the right shoulder goes down plane on the downswing and its working well. Commonly, morris says the hands go back too steep in the takeaway. The simple guide to getting your swing on plane the left rough. In addition to swinging on a steeper angle, players who hook the ball have to keep the face from closing. At impact, their club tends to move across the target line. Much shorter backswing on driver instruction and playing. The biggest mistake i see is golfers bending the right arm too quickly in the takeaway. What happened when i shortened my backswing golf club guru. The picture to the right demonstrates the club across the line at the top pointing to the right of the target. Golfers who get the club too steep, either during the backswing and. It will help you get a feel for your swing path and whether youre swinging the club on too flat or too steep a plane. This incline can cause fat shots, toe hits, weak slices and occasionally toe hooks.

With a driver, however, you can greatly increase distance with more roll. Downswing is shallow but my backswing is also shallow, kind of a one plane swing too flat. While no golfer is going to hit every fairway they face, the ability to hit most of your fairways will put you way ahead of the game. The backswing is designed only to get the player in position for and help create momentum for the downswing. Now, not at the ball, thats pretty steep, but outside the ball a little bit is where we want to be.